Comments on: The Guardia Civil, or, Fascism and intimidation are alive and well in Spain. http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/ Now brought to you by those nice people at The Muse on the Rock! Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:07:10 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: James http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1307 James Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:07:10 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1307 Last week in Tenerife these cowardly thieving thugs stopped a man from Stoke,England driving a hire car on the TF1. The thug alleged excess speed which meant he should be paid €70. As a direct result of the illegal actions of these cowardly,corrupt thugs throughout Spain it is now a fact that many Spaniards seem to have the capacity to clone cridit cards. The man from Stoke had been advised on his very first Spanish visit NOT TO USE OR EVEN CARRY A CREDIT CARD. He told the corrupt thug he did not have €70. The thug then demanded to view the man's wallet that contained £50. The thug stated he would have to speak to the Sergento in the patrol vehicle. He returned to tell the man in perfect English £50 sterling will do instead. No receipt or traffic ticket was given was given but I hope the thief reads this post and considers returning the money he stole. Language makes no difference to these cowardly thieving and corrupt thugs. Last week in Tenerife these cowardly thieving thugs stopped a man from Stoke,England driving a hire car on the TF1. The thug alleged excess speed which meant he should be paid €70. As a direct result of the illegal actions of these cowardly,corrupt thugs throughout Spain it is now a fact that many Spaniards seem to have the capacity to clone cridit cards.
The man from Stoke had been advised on his very first Spanish visit NOT TO USE OR EVEN CARRY A CREDIT CARD.
He told the corrupt thug he did not have €70. The thug then demanded to view the man’s wallet that contained £50. The thug stated he would have to speak to the Sergento in the patrol vehicle. He returned to tell the man in perfect English £50 sterling will do instead.
No receipt or traffic ticket was given was given but I hope the thief reads this post and considers returning the money he stole.
Language makes no difference to these cowardly thieving and corrupt thugs.

]]> By: kevmoore http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1306 kevmoore Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:08:37 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1306 Ah! A reaction! It took forever to get somebody to bite on that! :-) You clearly have a mighty command of English, my friend. Let me put this simply in words you can understand. Twenty-five years ago, this area was severely underdeveloped, most people were selling asparagus by the side of the road, and those roads were lucky to have a decent layer of tarmac on them. After years of being wooed by the Spanish, the Brits (and other nationalities) began coming here - settling, and on holidays. They injected much needed cash into the region, and it began to flourish. Most of the Spanish here speak a modicum of English for the tourists, it makes perfect sense to do so. Whilst I freely admit to not speaking <em>much</em> Spanish, I will use it whenever possible. I can say enough to ask for stuff in shops, order things, pass the rudimentary time of day etc. But when I'm shouted at by a belligerent policeman at 100mph in his native tongue in a stressful situation, and I offer him an alternative method of communicating his requirements to me, he damn well ought to listen. And to answer your final question: I feel great in Spain, thanks very much. I'm just uncomfortable with latent fascism, wherever it may be found. Saludos, y muchas gracias. Hasta pronto. Ah! A reaction! It took forever to get somebody to bite on that! :-) You clearly have a mighty command of English, my friend. Let me put this simply in words you can understand. Twenty-five years ago, this area was severely underdeveloped, most people were selling asparagus by the side of the road, and those roads were lucky to have a decent layer of tarmac on them. After years of being wooed by the Spanish, the Brits (and other nationalities) began coming here – settling, and on holidays. They injected much needed cash into the region, and it began to flourish. Most of the Spanish here speak a modicum of English for the tourists, it makes perfect sense to do so. Whilst I freely admit to not speaking much Spanish, I will use it whenever possible. I can say enough to ask for stuff in shops, order things, pass the rudimentary time of day etc. But when I’m shouted at by a belligerent policeman at 100mph in his native tongue in a stressful situation, and I offer him an alternative method of communicating his requirements to me, he damn well ought to listen. And to answer your final question: I feel great in Spain, thanks very much. I’m just uncomfortable with latent fascism, wherever it may be found. Saludos, y muchas gracias. Hasta pronto.

]]> By: P.P. http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1305 P.P. Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:37:29 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1305 They kept on at me, until eventually I said, “you speak to my partner on this phone, or you speak to me in English”.. Why dont you learn spanish ? You were in SPAIN, the official language is SPANISH and NOT english. And if you dont feel good in spain, why dont you fucking leave ? They kept on at me, until eventually I said, “you speak to my partner on this phone, or you speak to me in English”..
Why dont you learn spanish ? You were in SPAIN, the official language is SPANISH and NOT english.
And if you dont feel good in spain, why dont you fucking leave ?

]]> By: James http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1295 James Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:25:02 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1295 Hello Claire You are not alone against this cowardly and corrupt outfit regardless of what language you speak. They only attack the innocent, aged, infirm, drunks and most of all children. In short, someone defenceless. Be prepared for a lengthy battle with all sorts of twists. A friend of mine, who refused to be escorted to a cash point, when she wasn’t speeding two years ago is still battling because she alerted AN OTHER by mobile to their attempted cheat. The “fine” increases/decreases as no photographic evidence of her “crime” can be available as she was not speeding. All the best in your battle and let us know how you go. Take care James Hello Claire

You are not alone against this cowardly and corrupt outfit regardless of what language you speak.

They only attack the innocent, aged, infirm, drunks and most of all children. In short, someone defenceless.

Be prepared for a lengthy battle with all sorts of twists. A friend of mine, who refused to be escorted to a cash point, when she wasn’t speeding two years ago is still battling because she alerted AN OTHER by mobile to their attempted cheat. The “fine” increases/decreases as no photographic evidence of her “crime” can be available as she was not speeding.

All the best in your battle and let us know how you go.

Take care

James

]]> By: claire sheehan http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1289 claire sheehan Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:55:57 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1289 I speak perfect spanish as does my 15 year old son who doesn-t smoke, drink, is road legal on his scooter, wears a helmet and is a nice chap. Bit cheeky maybe but not bad. They pushed him around and fined him 1000 euros for whistling at them. I shall not pay it. Bullies and thug they are and a bit thick I think. Yhea very tough and scary pushing a kid around. I speak perfect spanish as does my 15 year old son who doesn-t smoke, drink, is road legal on his scooter, wears a helmet and is a nice chap. Bit cheeky maybe but not bad. They pushed him around and fined him 1000 euros for whistling at them. I shall not pay it. Bullies and thug they are and a bit thick I think. Yhea very tough and scary pushing a kid around.

]]> By: fred http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1287 fred Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:37:08 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1287 Never mind cheers for looking. Unbelievable, the list is endless, i just found a site where people were warning of criminals dressing up as guarda, pulling people then robbing them blind. Can you believe they even had cars just like guarda!!!! As if its not the sweaty crooks themselves! Never mind cheers for looking. Unbelievable, the list is endless, i just found a site where people were warning of criminals dressing up as guarda, pulling people then robbing them blind. Can you believe they even had cars just like guarda!!!! As if its not the sweaty crooks themselves!

]]> By: James http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1286 James Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:25:48 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1286 Further to my last post Fred. I cannot find the site but the murder was of a young man in Basque Country. I may have put something like "Deaths caused by Guardia Civil" into Google. That reveals so much that I say again we are lucky to be able to write about the thugs. Nothing surprises me about these cowardly thugs as I personally witnessed them handcuff a drunken Spaniard at 5.00a.m. one morning and take him to the top of a set of 40 to 50 steps in the village. I have no doubt the only reason he was not pushed down was due to the fact I illuminated myself on my balcony causing them to remove him. I will have another search for that site when time permits. Further to my last post Fred. I cannot find the site but the murder was of a young man in Basque Country.
I may have put something like “Deaths caused by Guardia Civil” into Google. That reveals so much that I say again we are lucky to be able to write about the thugs.
Nothing surprises me about these cowardly thugs as I personally witnessed them handcuff a drunken Spaniard at 5.00a.m. one morning and take him to the top of a set of 40 to 50 steps in the village. I have no doubt the only reason he was not pushed down was due to the fact I illuminated myself on my balcony causing them to remove him.
I will have another search for that site when time permits.

]]> By: James http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1285 James Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:52:38 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1285 Sorry Fred Cannot find it this morning but I will try later...there is so much stuff out there as you would be aware. Anyway, there was a bomb in Burgos on 29-7-2009 and on 30-7-2009 the two Garda were bombed. The home of one Garda was the site for the bomb on 29-7-2009. Sorry Fred
Cannot find it this morning but I will try later…there is so much stuff out there as you would be aware.
Anyway, there was a bomb in Burgos on 29-7-2009 and on 30-7-2009 the two Garda were bombed. The home of one Garda was the site for the bomb on 29-7-2009.

]]> By: fred http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1284 fred Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:42:24 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1284 Can you remember name of site james, sounds like an interesting story? Can you remember name of site james, sounds like an interesting story?

]]> By: James http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/the-guardia-civil-or-fascism-and-intimidation-are-alive-and-well-in-spain/#comment-1283 James Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:25:02 +0000 http://kevmoore.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-1283 As stated Charles you have my sympathy. These are totally unreal corrupt cowardly thugs. I know of many cases where this type of incident ocurred for invented offences but the best one must be where they took €300 and allowed the driver to proceed with no brakes. He always carries money as he deals in dodgy vehicles. What they don't know is he has a record of all dealings as he is also an electronics expert and takes the time to insert video and sound equipment in all vehicles. He does have a real problem in that he cannot present his evidence to anyone as the entire system is totally corrupt. As in Fred's case we are lucky to be able to write about them. On another site I note that they murdered a young man and that murder seems to connected with the murder of two of these thugs recently. As stated Charles you have my sympathy.

These are totally unreal corrupt cowardly thugs.

I know of many cases where this type of incident ocurred for invented offences but the best one must be where they took €300 and allowed the driver to proceed with no brakes. He always carries money as he deals in dodgy vehicles. What they don’t know is he has a record of all dealings as he is also an electronics expert and takes the time to insert video and sound equipment in all vehicles.

He does have a real problem in that he cannot present his evidence to anyone as the entire system is totally corrupt.

As in Fred’s case we are lucky to be able to write about them. On another site I note that they murdered a young man and that murder seems to connected with the murder of two of these thugs recently.

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